Part 1b in an Occasional Series
Dec. 10th, 2016 06:08 pm(Which should at least be the end of both '1' and this subtopic as I can't help but feel like I'm missing something and there's no point going on without finding it).
I never did remember with any confidence what 'Key Sum-up #2' is but let's pretend it had something to do with 'is there a way to work with anyone whose starting point is Fuck The System from within that system or is the thing to do, if you don't want the system to be fucked in the way they want, to try and crush them with the system as is instead?' (A bit of a challenging prospect if you are an 'inherent system questioner', but on the other side of the spectrum).
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Excuse me while I purposefully go and read some "alt-right" ranting on FB I've been purposefully avoiding until this moment.
OK, back. Annnnd, I kinda wish I didn't do that 'cause I got absolutely nothing useful from it. What I got was a guy glorying that Trump will shut out Mexicans with his wall while periodically using language like "muzzies" and "wogs", which kind of returns me to 1a where I noted that "I am becoming increasingly sympathetic to the position that the 'alt-right' cannot be apprehended through rationality and questioning". (And I'm not just saying this to be condescending; I'm saying his approach is one hell of a response to a blog post concerned, in part, that Trump voters are inclined toward racism).
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So, uh, yeah. I think in the short term I'm going to skip attempts at engaging folks like this and instead keep looking for concrete things I can do that help to build up the type of world I'd rather see. Not much but it's what I'm sticking to for now!
I never did remember with any confidence what 'Key Sum-up #2' is but let's pretend it had something to do with 'is there a way to work with anyone whose starting point is Fuck The System from within that system or is the thing to do, if you don't want the system to be fucked in the way they want, to try and crush them with the system as is instead?' (A bit of a challenging prospect if you are an 'inherent system questioner', but on the other side of the spectrum).
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Excuse me while I purposefully go and read some "alt-right" ranting on FB I've been purposefully avoiding until this moment.
OK, back. Annnnd, I kinda wish I didn't do that 'cause I got absolutely nothing useful from it. What I got was a guy glorying that Trump will shut out Mexicans with his wall while periodically using language like "muzzies" and "wogs", which kind of returns me to 1a where I noted that "I am becoming increasingly sympathetic to the position that the 'alt-right' cannot be apprehended through rationality and questioning". (And I'm not just saying this to be condescending; I'm saying his approach is one hell of a response to a blog post concerned, in part, that Trump voters are inclined toward racism).
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So, uh, yeah. I think in the short term I'm going to skip attempts at engaging folks like this and instead keep looking for concrete things I can do that help to build up the type of world I'd rather see. Not much but it's what I'm sticking to for now!